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I hare livescope, but fellows let’s quit bitching and find out how to use livescope better or learn to out fish Ben Miliken
Well, that's a hot topic right now with our walleye run coming to a close. It's real simple – hook, in mouth, inside out. That's it simple. Anything else is a snag, and that's unethical.
The majority of problems in this world are because someone didn't say no, when they should have said no. And what we see today is the result, of not standing up, and shouting "NO" ~ Any discussion beyond that needs to be halted with a firm "NO" ~ … that's it. There is no fk'n discussion, STFU, NO!
If the rule states "if you see the fish". In a black and white world seeing the fish in the water is the same as "seeing" the fish on your live scope. In both instances you know for a fact that the fish is there. So as per the written rule you can not snag a fish in either instance. I personally would just rewrite the rule as "No snagged fish will be allowed for weigh in no matter the circumstance in which it was snagged. No hook in the mouth means no weight for you."
If you are fishing any tournament snagged fish. Should not be weighed end period. You know that new generation of bass anglers are a different breed. It's so sad that you have to use electronics to catch fish. That's not fishing. Just saying.
Everyone using Live Scope was cheating!
Oh my goodness, pit on a big ol worm or jig and pitch docks, youll eventually catch some fish and get in the money
If you take away live scope,you would see a lot of them drop out of fishing, with out it they are lost !
Only bass that are caught in the MOUTH should count !!!!
No one is forced to use the FFS. It is a choice. How many hammers are there? 5 or 6. you are the only one screaming about this.
How many times have you caught a bass by throwing a bait at a group of fish you saw on a regular ol’ depth finder or paper graph or fished a brush pile you couldn’t see because of side imaging sonar and catch a bass ? I agree with you on the FFS issues. I do not agree with you on this specific subject. I was a small tournament fisherman for many years. I’ve seen many a bass get caught that I couldn’t see that jumped a couple times and I watched my bait move from inside the mouth to the outside of the mouth during the fight. This does occur. I do know that sometimes a fish will hit a bait and miss it and get foul hooked because of it. Bedding bass being caught like that I agree should not count. The rest I have no problem with. The rule is clear. Unless they change it. It’s not a gray area. I do agree that a lot of the rules should be updated to the current times. Hank Parker’s take on this FFS thing is the best analogy I’ve her so far.
Considering it is against the State of Texas fishing laws, ANY fish that is foul-hooked, [no stipulation about seeing the fish first] not hooked in the mouth has been taken illegally and is to be returned to the water immediately! Surprised there is any debate about it. Don't think BASSMaster rules can overrule state fishing regulations.
What is the end game on this new fishing sonar when their's no fish left to sonar i guess 🤔 what about are kids n grandkids where's the beef now its where's the fish
Don't think flokes realize how much harm were doing to are wild life n fish home development all over so now you see more deer in ur communities have nowhere else to go so then we feed them deer corn 🌽 pellets that stop them from populating same with are chickens 🐔 and hogs and alot of other wild life sad to find out bill gates owns 70% of are farm lands but wants American people to start eating bugs 🐛 funny how all this ties in from wild life oceans great lakes now are inland lakes wipe out all are food population
Do we even know what's really going on anymore time to get smarter open are eyes resurch times are changing very fast need to ask are selves what would happen if we destroyed are wild life and fish and don't even know we're doing it but it's happening in real time why is bill gates and these billionaires want us to eat bugs live in a container kill off are wild life n inland lakes fishing population why ??????
Wow finding out alot of info about forward facing sonar and the sound waves that are effectively destroying are inland lakes from fish spawning sound waves under water are are inland fresh water lakes n rivers now these forward facing sonar should have only been used for military use only not video gaming and hurting are fish population spwan less n less n less every yr last 5 yrs seen a huge difference in spwan on lots of different lakes now everyone else is now starting to notice it wonder if the government is behind this life everything else ocean waters are bad enough with all the big boats and their sonar wind turbines all send very strong waves in are oceans now the great lakes salmon n trout population way down now its are smaller inland lakes getting hit sound waves under water are messing up the fish spawning population
Here's a thought…
Let them prefish with it.
Then send them out with a topo map and a temp gauge during tournaments and nothing else. They are all "pros" right?
Shouldn't be an issue catching fish if you claim to be a "pro".
It almost seems as if the guys defending scoping can't catch them without it.
In my world that means you suck at fishing.
Lil late to the party. But visual is visual. Eyes or eyes on a screen is visual. Should be hooked in the mouth. As for the century belt. Sadly it’s the way of the world. Gotta hand out participation trophies to keep the lazy coming back and interested. Earning is a thing of the past unfortunately.
Of course it's cheating. But then so is FFS. Thanks Randy for having the guts to address it.
ANYBODY using a livescope is CHEATING. FACT
You're worse than an old wash woman why don't you just grow up and learn how to fish for God's sake
Any fish not caught in the mouth doesn't count and needs to be released. What happened to sportsmanship? It must be about the all mighty dollar I guess.
I'm not a competitive bass fisherman, but I've caught a lot of bass in days gone by. As far as I'm concerned, if ANY bass is not caught in the mouth in a competition, it should not be counted. Obviously, this only works in tournaments where there is a judge in the boat. If the bass didn't bite the lure, then it was simply in the way. And that seems to be what the potential cheats are doing. The money causes people to do unethical things in bass fishing and all other areas of life.
At times money creates intrigraty problems.
My opinion is if you have e to have a screen to tell you where to put your hook, your not much of a fisherman. That's proves nothing if you win.
All I’m saying is you never hear farmers saying “this ain’t real farming” with the new farm equipment
You guys should not be fishing bedding fish at all.
No foul hooked fish should ever be allowed regardless if it's sight fishing
Incredible accusations require incredible evidence
I agree with that. Because it is a visual fish. And the rule should be Rewritten for that. And I understand your position on ffs and I don't disagree with it. But saying video game or Spotlight box intentionally all the time does get old. We do understand that's what you mean when you just say ffs. And I understand you're trying to get your point across. But intentionally deliberately stopping to think of words to call it all the time does become a turn-off even on videos in which I agree with what you are saying. Just makes it hard to watch after a while
Shut up and quit whining.
I bet all the FFS guys are liberal democrats!! lol 😂
So if you see a fish on any fish finder you are saying you are seeing and shouldn't be able to count them if it's not in the mouth, so take all fish finders off the boats, next you're going to be saying hooks are snagging to many fish, if you don't like the technology, start your new tournaments with old school equipment, kind like traditional archery guys did, or black powder guys did!
Sight fishing is fiscally seeing fish with your own eyes, not on a damn graph!
You sure seem to whine allot about LiveScope everybody has it deal with it my God, the constant pitching what you can't win tournaments anymore
Foil hooked. Douche bags like the walleye guys will take advantage of LS/FFS to visually identify and snag.
That is absolutely wrong if something is not done about this it will ruin the sport
Until BASS rewrites the rules regarding the use of FFS Iwould have to say it is totally legal. They don’t actually see the fish, they see a line on a screen. Just as if using the old style fish finders and you were jigging a blade bait and snagged a fish in 20ft. of water. Wouldn’t that fish be legal? I believe so. Just my opinion for what it’s worth.
Iam not an anti livescoper and feel it's being unfairly targeted BUT!! The rule states if visually seen, well whether they are seen thru sunglasses or livescope THEY ARE BEING SEEN!! This is a valid point and that rule absolutely needs to be enforced!! Visuals are visuals
Here you go Randy. Livescope fishing with a pickle.
https://youtu.be/JdEpCLnjetg?si=gpJOPv_c934oVT8f
They all were cheating it’s called using FFS
Its just disgusting! Totally against the scoppers
How do you know the first hook was in the mouth the trail hook grabs which allows the mouth hook to come out
I hope you do get FFS banned LoL. Only because I’m a hater. Only because I have livescope and it doesn’t help for shit because I clearly don’t know what the fuck I’m doing. Maybe you should have to come down here to Ga and show me how to use my livescope, or even how to just go catch 5 worth catching shallow.